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Episode 39: Leilani Batty

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In this engaging conversation with Leilani, we explore effective strategies for setting, monitoring, and accomplishing both short- and long-term objectives. From her professional evolution from a full stack web developer to the Director of PMO to her personal development techniques and her transition to a new role, Leilani offers a wealth of knowledge on planning and goal execution. She details her approach of dividing goals into manageable tasks and consistently tracking them daily, weekly, and quarterly. Additionally, Lielani gave us a detailed walkthrough of her goal-setting tool that embodies her methodologies.

In this in-depth conversation with Leilani, we delve into methodologies for setting, tracking, and achieving short- and long-term goals. Covering everything from her career journey, from a full stack web developer to the director of PMO, to her personal growth methods and her move to a new company, Leilani shares valuable insights into planning and executing goals. She explains her strategy of breaking down goals into small achievable steps and tracking them daily, weekly, and quarterly. We also get a detailed walkthrough of a goal-setting product based on her principles.

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(00:00) welcome Lani thank you so much this is exactly 1 year ago that where we met for our first session in which we talk about similar topic goal setting your process your vision board how you’re planning the long-term goal and how you’re planning on a day to-day basis lilani work at Advent help as a director of pmo office she managed all of our IT project she and her team and sadly she is leaving us to join another company but we are also excited that she’s starting her new endover so with that Leilani
(00:40) welcome to the podcast I’m so excited to have you again thank you thank you so much for watching me I’m excited to be here again to you and share an update and talk about the journey both professionally personally or an ad and and just like you said it’s bit sweet for me as I can impr my journey with ad and health but I take with me a lot of knowledge and learnings from the theme that I’ll definitely use in my next chapter in my life that will continue to your further my growth in my development
(01:12) awesome congratulations I’m sure our part will cross again regarding the last podcast where we talk about bull setting we talk about how you plan so one of the thing that you mention is your fire system where you want to fire yourself in 10 years so how are you doing with progress and the big goals that you have absolutely first off for those that aren’t familiar with what wiring yourself needs it’s definitely ative activity or goal it means financial Independence retire early and what that means is you want to
(01:54) position yourself financially so that you can do whatever it is you want to do with your life whether that means you want to continue in the role that you serve in in a particular company or organization or if you want to Branch out and do your wrong thing or if you just simply want to enjoyy time um puring stes and being me family I do feel like I progressing really well in that file I know there’s a lot of discussion on learning and social media around inflation or things more expensive and costing more that’s so for
(02:33) me and my family we want to spend we minimize our expenses things are paed off the house p and so we’re in a really good place that said obviously there not quite there yet but they still need to pursue a day di to to continue that goal but I do feel that I we’ve established my family and I have established a really great foundation in terms of our debt ratio um don’t have any debt and we’re on a path so that for own at some point I can pursue a a different Endeavor that that’ll allow me to be
(03:07) more aous and enviral you said you don’t have any no we all our cars paid off college education for our son is paid off the house is paid off we we have a credit card but we use that simply just to you know make purchases and PID that off and every statement we contribute to our retire our only retirement plans sub not our ability so yeah we’re from a depth perspective we are actually really good proud of ourselves keep wow that that’s awesome congratulations we also believe in that philosophy and we minimize whatever we
(03:47) can minimize so we have paid out for our house and the rental but then we move into this house so we still have that but that’s one other thing that we try to do is to not have any debt yes that is so important if you want to Achieve Financial Independence there’s obviously there’s a con having good debt which is something that you can look at getting some tax savings on like house payment or the mortgage but we try to avoid all that as much as possible and in the that something were to financially impact us
(04:22) that we could absorb that so they’re in a good shape in case of any emergencies through and I’m sure you can understand having something feed off like that it feels really impress yes so moving into the your big goal think about long-term goal you have this fire goal and plus some other aspiration around joy around your sight passion around other things so how do you plan and track those long 10 years goals yeah and it’s funny because when you make a ball I don’t want people to think that okay I
(05:02) made this goal I’m just G to stick with it and it’s never going to change no your goals change yes as you try something you assimilate new information and evidence how that Wells Pro progressing you may realize okay I need to Trigg it maybe I need to put it a little bit the the Big B is is being able to have Financial Independence that is the longterm goal the the steps to get there that will take well my one year maybe six months to get there that is what I I constantly evaluate and put it on for example this time last year I was
(05:43) looking at something a personal fashion project of mine outside of what I do my daytime career to help funnel more more income into that fire bul of mine uh didn’t quite work out the way I expected you know what that’s okay you’ve got to feel multiple times of you make that that that big discovery that that you find that thing that actually works for you um very rarely is anybody um going to be able to try something and knock it out of the par the first time this time last year I experimented with was
(06:21) something on the side and it taught me a lot and that I’m grateful for it taught me about expressing myself it taught me about communication it taught me about taking risk and measure risk and it taught me to understand where where my limits are what I need to balance and it didn’t quite work out the way I expected and that’s okay and then you made me realize okay what else do I enjoy what else is my passion what else do I feel like my purpose is out there and I CED it and so now I have a new goal still
(06:57) leveraging the learnings that I had from last year leveraging the learnings I get out now and like communication and and how to make myself more visible out there and so it still supports that long-term fire goal fact that moved up my fire goal but um I’ve accelerated the timeline for it uh I don’t think it’s I don’t think you know it’s necessarily going to take 10 years um I I really do hope it take less time than that um but again as I’m tracking towards and as I looking at okayy how am I doing on an annual basis
(07:33) how am I doing on a quarterly basis or how am my on the right so that’s how I try to break up a very big goow into just measurable stat and even so much just so going into finer detail as looking at the weekly basis or the bases what is like R purple s and and then I leave a break it down and say what is my book then what should I do today this one little thing that will just inch me full seing that full whether it’s reading a blog or listening to my favorite audio book or watching it or really qu mix video that relates to
(08:17) that my project whatever little I can keep moving forward I just feel like I don’t do something for mental eaching and not how small it is that there’s that risk of losing momentum so it’s taking very small measurable steps but still looking at a year five years and 10 years down the road I did not know about this by go that you were spreading this to other people what this mean can you can I ask some followup questions on that if you’re open to share about it yeah what is the what a Spire actually
(09:00) stands for or something what was your project you said you was sharing that with other people you were trying to bring more people to that V uh that philosophy was it a sub mentorship that you was giving to other people no not at all I from the fire perspective this is just something I like to share and talk about and get people’s ideas but from my passion project on the side I was more looking towards getting into more the e-commerce space more specifically into 3D printing and creating designs and and
(09:36) being able to designs and thinking Services didn’t really quite work out to R inspector but I learned a lot about again like I said communication planning what is marketable out there and so on oh okay got it got it okay okay so we talk about that your longterm project and then you have this uh fashion project that you tried last year and you have another one this year so these are one year duration that you try you you do the learning and then you apply it to something else and and one of the thing that you said that you
(10:16) applying the learning from the last year passion project to this year and I always believe when I share that our life is like Doc projects or puzzle pieces where you work on left hand side sometime right hand side and then other areas and then at some point the you see the big picture and in times with think that whatever we have done to years ago it was all based but when you see this big picture you it everything makes sense that yes they spent the time that I spent 2 years ago on doing something unrelated it does have a place in this
(10:59) big picture that is is so true I I you may think that something required a couple years ago is completely be completely unrelated to Something in the future but maybe you exercise a creative aspect of your mind in designing something years ago and then next year you’ve evolved in your role or whatever like to pursue in the future requires you to do some kind of graphic exing or writing something that you had learned previously it it leverages leverage that it all builds upon each other and at some point perhaps it even reveals that gift and
(11:40) talent that you meant to Victory the world which is at like legal blocks and pieces that it build until you see this final Masterpiece of a product that that that you realize this is what you’re meant to do yeah that is so true I want to see a few more minutes on this long-term planning and I will bring some friction characters so that we can we can have some example to talk about so my fictional character is a web developer and they go through different life cycle they start at some point where they are
(12:20) learning and then applying a new job when they get the first job from that point to until two years or 3 years they’re trying to figure it out and then trying to grow themsel into a senior and then the life keep go on for them there are at least 50 different thing that they have to learn they cannot do all of them in one year one month right but it’s so it there is an anxiety of I mean here for three years and I need to learn Cloud I need to learn this new AI based technology or machine learning they
(13:02) cannot do all that same apply to any long-term goal where you have this big aspiration big Direction and then you have to break that into pieces and then you can only select one or maximum two or three pieces that you can work on and then you have to wait for 3 months 6 months a year to try something else so with that background question number one you probably have the similar type of anxieties excitement that you want to do 10 different things how do you select what is that one thing that you will focus on and two months later 3 months
(13:42) later 6 month later you still discipline yourself that I have picked this and I will focus on this for certain duration yeah I think there’s actually a a legit form for this type of people like multi-passionate type of individuals I’ll tell you when I was Elementary School AG maybe about 11 years old mean I wanted to be everything when I grew up as I want to be aarian I wanted to be a fashion designer I wanted to be an animator I didn’t want to be an astronaut and they would always joke to me I was be in the whole world and you
(14:20) want you to find time to do all that I I could definitely relate and trying to narrow the focus is almost like having ADHD for careers speak of like oh that sounds cool I want to try that I’ve certainly lived that that gam I after I was in high school I wanted to be a fashion designer design a lot of clothes was was working to get into a fashion school went to computer science instead and then I up my computer science degree actually went The Culinary management and then I still to be a s and and then I actually B an AA and
(14:52) graphic design I tried lots of different things so I can definitely relate to the fictional character why to trying and do different things and we’re just spending time mastering something before they try something else it’s um but you’re right at some point you have to just focus pick something and just give it a shot I think the challenges is that you’re thinking in your mind what if what are the opportunity cost of me not picking the other thing I could have been successful in that in that
(15:26) other yeah but the same time could be very successful in in this one thing we’re trying out now that you’re focusing right now I would be successful in all of them but but you’re right it is important to at least give one pick one give it a focus a concered effort that’s really what I did last year like last year I I developed a an 3D containment cons so much information and I learned a whole lot of stuff and I think think it some a really Unique Piece say that I was really proud of and I don’t consider it a waste of
(16:04) time I consider it time L done and that’s good and I know that it’s something that I continue to leverage in in future future things I want to char what do you want to be when you grow up I’m still trying to figure that out I know a lot of people are still trying to figure it out too pick one give it a shot time box it as a developer if you’re working on a spum team and you’re familiar with time boxing tell yourself hey I’m going to give this from year I think be years pretty fair enough duration of time to
(16:41) to experiment and and give it a sh and determine what your success criteria is whether it’s I money bation by the end of this 12 months or I want to complete two projects uh by the end of this qu or this one and if you are successful in that then I they wasti you’re on the right track and keep going um but if you’re saying that the results aren’t what you’re expecting then considering it’s okay uh a lot of people I don’t want to try I don’t want to be I don’t I don’t want to feel you kind different
(17:20) things to find the right one yeah and so going back to this fictional character this person has three year of experience want to be a senior have done something probably missing some other thing what would be your suggestion how this person should approach now I am asking you this question as two qualities that you have two skills that you have you you’re the director of the pmo is you can break things apart and give steps to anything and then second you have been into this position where you have helped other
(17:57) people grow from Jun Junior to senior to leaders so I I wanted to share ask you as an open question that how would you guide this person the first part is how would I guide that person into figuring out which area to focus on yeah because between a junior to senior they probably things and then certifications education skills experience all that I I think the first question I would ask is what do they want for them um and really try to understand um what does what do they love um what has meaning to them uh and what why
(18:42) doing because as a developer you could there’s different facets you could be front end developer full stack developer be backend developer you be you WR API so there’s different aspects to it I think the first question on your St the underlying motivations were we be find and S feeling in the zone back when I used to be a full staff developer I really felt myself in the zone when I was designing for and working on new didn’t as much enjoy writing transact sequels St procedures but some it’s I think what understand what did
(19:22) they enjoy spending the I on and that would then help me to understand what when going to give them as far as what kind of certifications that they should pursue so that would be part one and then I guess the second question and more around where to to find that kind of information or tell me a little bit more so I know how it answer best way yes thank you thank you for answering that question and I will come back to this from a frontend poch developer to director of pmo how that happened so we’ll come back back to that in a
(20:00) second so let’s say this person required two certification five soft skills and some new programming that this person has to to learn and the first step would be to identify this so this person has identified person identifi the motivation as well backend yay and then then he has bunch of or she has bunch of things like almost seven eight 10 things cannot do all of them so the first step would be to align it to a year six month something that they will have to do in that case I would want or Sate like the
(20:43) same question what is it they during what aspect of development brings them the most joy that they find themselves well prioritize that try to prioritize what are the requirements to get them for where they are today when you need to really want to be Point V in the future and determine okay what are this dations what the classes they need to take try to identify if they want to be a senior developer what certifications are needed and we senior developer you’re going to have some leadership understanding and being able
(21:20) to have some emotional intelligence to deal with other people can be demanding on your time so I would Rec men for them to to try and sprinkle in throughout their week make like a a road map a game plan of of all the things that they should try to accomplish if they have a goal that they want to be their junior develop right now and their goal is to be a senior developer in five years plus b in three years in three years then I would probably tell them okay let’s take a look at this bu that you need maybe
(21:57) there’s certain program languages they need to learn maybe they need to also learn certain testing skills and what notot and Tool skills so we’re talking those specific Technologies um then let’s talk about the soft skills they need just communication and build in presentations with your and your developer you need to be able to um and then we will make the backlog of all those things will we need to accomplish or should properly try to accomplish and then we can prioritize that treat yourself like a
(22:30) project treat yourself like a product and build your own personal product grow more and say okay by the end of this two weeks Sprint this is what I’m going to accomplish another claps I’m going to tap this is the mini goals from marel and then after the end of two weeks black the fact did I do it with did I were do I like it do I need to Pivot and then ask the same question in month in four until you get to that year and see are you growing at to be to fit the threeyear goal of developer thank you work break down a structure
(23:11) always right step when you lead the P team from a full te developer to director of pmo how did happen I don’t think we talk about that last day I I don’t know I don’t think think I did either it started again my whole journey started at Disney and I wrote back then it was Visual Basic and we evoled into that and all just like vb.
(23:45) net and I C and and what the other silver light was our front stack that we used and we were a SQL Server back in database R SQL so did our own data modeling for database structure and it was a lot of fun I I enjoy getting in the zone of knowing as a product that we needed to build and being able to solve the challenges and creating something for our internal clients to use but at some point I think it was probably around I did it for about 10 years and I realized I I was struggling and trying to keep up with the latest tools and
(24:23) technology and my mom actually told me hey why don’t you go into dep of management and she herself was an it she was a VA this is analyst for an IT organization I thought about I’m like yeah sure I’m G the L and she told me about the p& in the exam how hard it was that was always good for a good you know Challenge and so I I pursue that and I and it took me some time but I got on the first try and if anybody’s curious about how do one go about getting the PN there’s in particular approach to T I’m
(24:55) happy to share that with anybody but it is a I really a b certification and as soon as my leader saw that I was serious about maybe switching be a little bit and when I got the P because there a reallyi parts think chire they started handing me projects and okay let’s give it a shot you why don’t you lead this project with another more seent experienc project manager and I did really well because I enjoy planning and that kind of talent and well passion mind being able to plan with parties being a events that that
(25:32) thinking of what if is really handy to have as a c manager and I did really well and for more projects and eventually they said hey we want to try something different let’s go agile they brought in an agile coach and I really enjoyed the collaborative nature and really seem to suit my personality of of being a servant leader and taking care of my team and then moving blockers as a opposed to standard project manager need to do this delegate work do that where are you to me so it evolved from developing full stack to
(26:11) project management traditional project management to here let’s try different asual approaches I me more our mindset and then responsibility started more to me more leadership opportunities came to me and I I managed a team and then next thing I know I’m leing agile te and then I’m leaving and then here I in well you keep grabbing the fortunity that into your way yeah I that’s to be to be open to New Opportunities and experiences that people offer you and to listen you make you’re something that
(26:54) hits your interest know right and see where it takes you see or a PMP exam I did the training and for 2 3 years I was not 2 years I was not preparing for the exam actually and then finally I made my mind just because it was bothering me too much like why I’m not doing why I’m not doing this and then once I made up my mind I have to uninstall all my social applications to be able to focus but then I did it and just 6 month 3 months ago one of my friend he is a friend from my college I know him for 25 30 years now and he
(27:36) did PMP exam and the reason for him is we were just talking and he wanted to do something and I said let’s do this and I don’t know whether or not this will help you in your career uh whether or not you will be able to get a job after this but by clearing this you will have a mind shift that that you was able to achieve something that is beyond you think uh you can and that’s exactly what’s happening learning with them that is that is excellent it’s always good to try something and really stretch
(28:13) yourself uh it may not be something you you may use in your future but the fact that you go out of your comfort zone like you friend and challenged himself to CH something that is actually pretty quite difficult to do not many people ask it gives you that that confidence to keep going forward so yeah that I complely agree for sure so yeah and and what is happening to him he he started learning as some of the thing that he didn’t think about doing a year ago now it’s it just he feel I think it’s the the confidence that comes from
(28:49) inside that he can do anything that he want now because he was able to do that that that is so true is is his goal to become a project manager or he want so he’s he just want to get a better be at a better place when where he is right now so whether it is a combination of a project manager and a develop leader or as a project manager something yeah and that CL cation gives you an appreciation and a perspective even if we don’t go into that wall perhaps there in that wall what they are trying to do to accomplish
(29:31) their projects and their we’re going to get deeper into uh some of the goal setting so we talk about long-term planning we talk about how focusing on one thing and it’s sticking with that your time frame as you said about a year and and you decide those goals on your birthday um that’s another philosophy that you you have so once you decide a goal a big goal you also talk about breaking that and tracking so let’s get deeper into that uh how exactly you divide your big goal into steps will break down structure how
(30:15) do you do that and then how do you break it enough or identify that for April month you going to be doing this May June July and how do you go break them further for a weekly plan so let’s go there excellently like you mentioned I don’t really like to do goal settings at the top of the calendar year I like to do them on my birthday for one when you celebrate your birth with you your life cycle as opposed to please everybody just some kind of New Year’s resolution then on so for me it just has more meaning um
(31:04) when it’s your birthday because it’s more intimate to you in the case for example like I was telling you about that the I had a particular goals and I I said okay I’m going to going to try it for a year uh and I’m want to learn from it uh in that time frame what I did was I I said okay this My Success criteria by the end of this year within the near XYZ we is to establish a a marketpl for it to X number of signs whatever it I had to CH it to be then I had to think about what is it I need to do to get
(31:41) there what am I lacking what is the things that are getting me the most FL what do I need to learn and I found about I already is thing do I know about modeling I need to brush that off that off so I then looked at okay where do I want to be 6 months from now and then I looked at where do I want to three Mon and that was in my particular case Okay I want to make it to establish an LC I want to establish maybe AER site platform I want to be able to I need to start ingesting learning materials to figure out how do I get myself to to
(32:26) being in what skill set so I would do that and then on a weekly basis I said okay I BL I still have my family I I have my job and I still have to focus on that as a priority day job and my family and so what the what time is that with and obviously it’s just going to be a c of your time but you have to commit to yourself will set aside an hour a day to F so so that is what makes the difference in the on macro level but then ultimately have to look at in the micro detail level what are the the Small intermental Things They Mak can do
(33:12) with moving I’m old school I keep old school notebook as a journal I know a lot of people out there have moried they use your their tablets and your phones iPhones and devices there you go you’re all needs there’s something that you can’t be by writing something down the piece of paper although I do have my appleing to write it there too is there’s something that feels a little bit different when you’re writing in ouren piece of of Paper Plus the battery doesn’t die on you when you actually
(33:43) have pH notebook so that’s where I would do a lot of the pap this is my do for week Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday and I would set an intention of okay before I sign for the day I want to watch this YouTube video on spce and then I would set an intention of maybe Saturday or Sundays when I would actually that’s my day of creation where I will take what I learn follow the videos podcast social media and starty to actually apply it towards doing at something this Collective aspect of my Pion project and that will
(34:25) be my routine every week Monday morning learn something Tuesday Morning learn something else thing Wednesday Thursday Friday and Saturday Sund was actually apply what I learned and then Run results were vary it all depends on everybody else’s own personal fashion project but the the the method and and the pattern and the prespective steps are always still the same start ma bre it down until you can get into your manageable chunks that you achieve puring what you saying that for your week you have exact HS for each week
(35:12) that’s what I mean if somebody have not heard this I want to emphasize that what you’re saying is you’re not talking about a time table you’re talking about a timetable and a specific item in those time slots cor cor if somebody’s is trying to develop their saer development proficiency again going back to the fictional person is trying to grow themselves from a junior developer to a senior developer they would look at okay make sure I reserve an hour each day to do learning you know maybe
(35:51) another hour each day to to do practice and flying and if that’s not feasible then maybe it’s a half hour each day or maybe it’s an hour Monday but they get the weekend into applying that practical knowledge um again results were very depend on everything commitment family time and whatnot and Par that consistent consist yes this is great we what you’re saying a year breaking doing research breaking those into pieces and then making a plan and out you talk about some outcome related goal 6 month and three month and
(36:35) then you talk about some action related goals that these are the action that you will take and these are the outcome that you’re expecting and and those are like 6 month 3 month one month and then you’re talking about a weekly schedule and you’re talking about a daily uh not we daily but exact action item for the week and the weekend wow you quit break it up daily so people it’s like exercise right you want to set sides and so not just exercise with physical body exercise with physical brain you’re learning what
(37:13) you need to do get you to take those actual steps to apply it and you from into your B so leani by by this time you have this plan you have this you know exactly what you’re doing this week what are different reviews that you do so when do you create this week plan is that part of your weekly review it’s that part of something else yeah and I say it it sounds very much like a a a scrum scrum based approach the truth is it works right uh instead of a SC team it’s a team of one looking at yourself as not
(37:48) just the product owner and the scum master and the do you the whole thing yeah it a lot of the same principles apply all set the book all my intention on a and this back I’ll look at my week on the Sunday I’ll look at my even my work calender on the Sunday to see what’s what is expected to go me and then I’ll black and see okay what I need to do on the personal level for my personal goals for that week and what do I want to accomplish I there this book I want to week or there’s this YouTube
(38:22) series that I want to watch or this master class I want to watch during this week they’ll help me get where I want to go and I’ll make the goal okay I want to get through all that or maybe I want to talk to somebody and I want to meet this person who has experience that I I want to know them I want to make a goal to set up time to adop this person um by the end of this just these little micel goals all been establishing that on Sunday and say okay I want to do this by the following Saturday and then usually
(38:56) I’ll look back on a Saturday or Sunday weekends are the best days for me because obviously I’m not tied to any me it’s my time it’s being my family um and I’ll look back and say okay but I who and and if he didn’t because something PO outg with Senor work Mar came up I don’t beat myself over give yourself some brace just know that just stay focus say you know what it’s the second user St I have to roll it over to the next and we’ll try it there but using I tried to reflect on you know my
(39:30) intentions with a week on or Sunday Saturday and Sunday so we started with year month week so now one more level on a day to day basis your day is crazy you have so many things for 9 to5 job and then you have your own passion project plus family and 10 other things and I know how your life would be um is where you probably get Two Three Fires a day uh normally so how do you protect uh your day for these aspirational project yeah that’s and that can be challenging because work work is a priority your 95 and that
(40:15) is put on the table it’s what takes care of the the physicalities of your carine so there are are definitely ways um to dedicated anything that Sac good fun like for me for example I always try to make sure and and my team knows this I put no meetings on my calendar from noon noon to 1:00 no meetings I go put meetings on my team English calendar on my col’s calendar and then put meetings on my calendar during that time it’s usually decline unless I know something that’s spge the this year what gives me
(40:54) the mental braak that I need to charge Terry gives me an opportunity to re and digest and do something fun that’s PR that nourishes my personal goals that’s one thing the other thing is first thing in the morning A lot of times if you can set aside as part of your morning rual the opportunity to me to reflect to journal that’s another opportunties before anybody can hit you thigh first thing the morning is of a great time the last thing then I I’ll offer works for me and may not work for everybody on um
(41:30) their responsibili as an organization is on a Friday afternoon I have Institute my team no meetings on Friday afternoon it should be a time to catch up on we administrator to catch up on any so that your weekness there is less impact of 95 job on your weekend so you’ve been focused on your personal bows your family and whatever else is should P there are are those are just vales that you set for yourself and set for th to help protect our personal space and one last question on this uh segment what’s your day in a life look
(42:12) like what what’s your typical day look like I can tell you the right now because I’m as I’m transitioning roles and may not be saying you be ask me the M probably different but up until now a difficult day in my life I W up at 5:30 in the morning and I I work get my my son out of bed and ready for school as a 15-year-old it can be challenging to they must stay in bance s but usually he’s out the door by 6:30 and between 6:30 and 8:00 it’s usually to be quiet for me I don’t have to go in the office
(42:45) and then gives me a chance maybe about half hour to an hour to to I I always do the Tim my Fusion it helps to steal my mind it helps me to make blacken once I do that meditation I’ll just in mind for then if there are certain podcasts or videos or things I wonder you that help Mar my personal project I’ll take that time as well and then usually my day starts walk by around 8:00 and then my 9 to5 by 8 to 5 whatever feels in full lunchtime I may have an opportunity to to and read something fun um like I mentioned and
(43:33) then usually I pretty much done for the day by around 5:30 uh occasionally there may be some meetings or follow up but I need try to make it up to be done with the day by six o’ and um put in the workout exercise is important but something else if I feel stuck if I got writers block I will go on the CH now and usually some movement helps to get me on Star it help to get me the thing of favorite things I tend to have ADHD and focus on a lot of little things walking helps me to focus on the problem I need to solve that yeah
(44:09) and then that’s my day I’m usually in bed by 10 o’clock there’s some dinner beforehand and maybe I’ll watch a program or two on on TV but then that’s my thing and then the weekends weekends Li I’m usually doy something with my family we try to get outside we I have most like family and my husband is his family here in Florida so we we are out of about with them sometimes as well but usually either Saturday or Sunday there’s usually a good chunk of the day where I’m at home
(44:41) and I will make them out to to actually applying things that I learned throughout the week and Mak some real table that’s where can have some Focus hours on my personal project but yeah majority of the weekend is dedicated to the being with them that’s important too yeah is is a good time too I try not to focus on looking then thank you so much for sharing this this is you your R you have a solid routine it’s not easy I mean I I’ll tell you it’s never it’s it was not always so consistent because like you mentioned
(45:19) there this thing this desire one to focus on so many things at once but the key is to pick one try full time together in both do you use or should I say what are the different time management systems or framework that you use l from a time management perspective I time box things to make sure that un are spending too much time on particular social all time boet 15 minutes SP half an hour so not overing certain things um but I don’t really subcribe to particular Tim philosopy I just try to work in inment and um and
(46:06) just thank you thank you so much for sharing all this we are at 542 I did book this until 5:15 but I didn’t ask you do you have few more minutes or of course I want to show you the system that I’m using right now for my planning yeah to see it okay so I will share my screen okay okay this is notion again this is will come to this these are my digital product that I have created and uh one of them is quarterly planning book I have 3.
(46:44) 0 funny we have Advent Health app 3.0 and my quarterly planning is also 3.0 but it comes with some instructions I have recorded a new video for this which which is uh my video editor is currently editing that so it comes with some instructions and what it has is a quarterly planning workbook workbook where there are multiple step step number one you think about everything that you want to do everything that is going on in your life and then you pick one of the focus area you define some clear goal in that and then make it very
(47:23) specific and then write one line that why why this goal matters to you and what will happen if you achieve it what will happen if you don’t achieve it and then sorry okay you were saying something no I love it this this is great this really helps it to put that Focus again on that yeah and then you build the action plan just like how you were saying all the steps and then converting those steps into daily actions once you’re done with it you go back to this page where you summarize everything in one View and then you actually create a time
(48:03) schedule for yourself you keep jotting down your accomplishment and then U it has some kind of vision board but then your areas project that you have identified and then the task and then it comes with some of the template to do the weekly review monthly and year review so all that and then so that’s a product that I have created and I I’m sharing that as one of the free products so I’m not charging anyone for this I plan to make it I’m writing a ultimate guide that these two will become a bundle and then
(48:44) I have been using exact same System since October of last year so this is my third third third quarter where I’m trying to use it the whole concept is that you you just how we do a quarterly planning and you have a list of things you pick up your focus and then you stick with that Focus so I will show exactly how my look mind look like so these are all the different things I pick that building digital product as my primary focus for Q2 and then I had many ideas I pick this is ultim guide for time management system for web developer
(49:29) is one thing that I will focus on I made very specific with adding some dates around it and and then the outcome around it and these are the two thing that I would need to be able to do this and promote this so they are there and then um you will see that 9 to5 job is one of my conflict I do that I I try to identify everything that can hold me back uh um my gardening I mean anything that comes here I try to write exactly why I want to do this and then the build an action plan and then move it here which is where you will see that these
(50:09) are accomplishment from q1 I had in q1 my goal was to identify that one thing that I want to offer I could help a web developer in 10 different ways but what is that one thing and I picked that time management is that one thing that’s my bus where I ask them hop out into this bus and then I will take you to the to one of the outcom so again it take same approach that you were saying that by 30 I want to finish it by 15 I want to sell it and by March by June I want to earn $1,000 from it and then it has exact actions outcome and actions
(50:52) that what are the different thing that I can check mark why this goal and then this is these are the step this is just plain work breakdown structure the steps and then this is where the daily actions comes that on Friday exactly what I’m doing Saturday Monday so everything is Define and this is I just started doing this one that if I have a if I have to pick and I can only do two things these are the two thing that I will be able to do not anything else must have nice to have this is amazing like great lines
(51:30) are thinking alike it’s this truly treating yourself like a product and a project that plan creating those priorities breaking it down water into the day level question free did you H your quarterly goals yes yes the quarterly so my goal for Q4 last year was to build this quarterly planning workbook build a product identify the different thing that I can help with offering so I I pick that the quarterly planning goal setting time management productivity all that and then identify who is that one person that I will be helping so that was my q1
(52:13) I identify what I will be out of 100 thing I can help what will be that one thing and then who that person will be so I was able to pick a web develop as that one person that was the outcome of Q Q4 and then in q1 I had to Niche down from helping a web developer become a senior or productivity or language learning I had to nich down to my my goal was q1 goal was to exactly what that one thing will be and that one thing will is time management so now I have time management for junior web developer and it I spent
(52:58) six month defining that for me um and that resonated with myself as well as the public uh audience and then this that’s the next thing that I want to create this guide by end of this quarter you Q2 I I will be able to decide if I want to build a course around it if I want to build a cohort around it and idea is what is that one transformation that I can provide to this one person in four weeks five weeks St prayer and then then just this is the FI information but I have this task with with my this is the weekly review from last
(53:44) week and this will have all the different thing that I accomplish and other thing and this is my running week um this these are exact item that I am doing I can check mark this now and then what I try to do I try to keep track of things I haven’t done this but this is exactly what my day looked like and I try to maintain and every time I try to pick that what are the top five items so I think what you I am following what you’re what you have as the system and I use the notebook as well as the system love it I that this really
(54:26) putting the detail to it and I think something of this format this tool really helps to get people to hone in and zero in on what it is they need to focus on and really helps I think to minimize all the different competing priorities because you’re really putting the energy and a fors that one in building a plan I think that’s great yep I have so I’ve been running this quarterly planning Pi planning for Advent H app and I everything that I’ve learned everything I’ve tried I have put all that into this product to just like how
(55:09) you’re saying from product to treating you and your aspiration as the product and building upon it quarter by quarter all right thank you so much Lani thank you so much for coming again in this podcast uh your wisdom your knowledge your experience can help many people and this podcast is will produce that results so thank you so much for spending your time is there any question do you have for me before we disconnect no no questions I just want to say thank you for inviting me and allowing me to share my experience with
(55:45) you and any listening and and I think what you are operating what you’re doing you’re sharing your knowledge you’re getting other people to share their knowledge I think that’s an amazing gift that’s amazing to help the community so thank you for allowing me to do that uh I love the school and I love the conversation you’re a brilliant person and and it’s great to you have likeed conversation with you so happy to do wish you all the best for your new journey and thank you again thank you
(56:17) all right I’ll see you right bye [Music] bye

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Vinod Sharma

Vinod Sharma

One of my childhood fascinations is learning about people and their lives, how they grew and achieved remarkable things in their lives.

I started this podcast to share stories of different web developers. In these interviews, you will meet web developers and learn about their educational backgrounds, career journey, and goal-setting process. You will also learn how they dream of becoming something and then become following whatever execution process they have followed.

I really try to extract how you decided/discovered what you want to become and how you executed it—dreams, goals, and journeys to achieve them.

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  1. What did you want to become when you were in high school?
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  3. How do you manage your day? How do you manage your task list/Todos? (Time Management)
  4. How do you identify your big goals/dreams? And what is your goal-setting method?

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